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Is the US a Super Fragile Capitolistic Are We That Atrosious Country?

Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:11 PM EDT
politics, us, government, america, taxes, credit, rich, monopoly, capitalist
By Taxinum2wice

Live Poll

Do you think the government must mandate that the rich pay more taxes because they fail to give voluntarily?

View Results
  • 49984
    Absolutey - YES
    67%
  • 49985
    No, Not at all, they earned it.
    22%
  • 49986
    Maybe if they are Bill Gates rich.
    0%
  • 49987
    Only couples making a million dollars per year.
    11%

VoteTotal Votes: 9

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If you can pronounce this, then maybe you can understand what the United States has become. This Country was once know for its citizens being allowed to achieve the American Dream. Hard work and dedication once rewarded us with an income to properly raise and sustain a family, buy a home and send our children to college. A trip to McDonald's was considered a treat or even a date for some and an amusement park seemed like a vacation.

20 years ago, we were able to start a business with little more than the savings of a years wages. We could allow our children to play outside with the neighbors and scrape their knee or even need stitches and a quick trip to the local emergency room could still get home in time for dinner. Once fed well, you slept well and did not worry about whether or not your house payment or utilities paid. If you were late or behind, you could extend the pay date with little more than a phone call.

Today, most of us work all week only to earn enough to cover this months bills. It takes years to save the required down payment to buy a home. You cannot even get a cell phone without a hefty down payment if there is as much as a blight on your credit from years ago when you bought our first car, or the expensive divorce where you had to split all that you worked so hard to buy with your soul mate. We could no longer buy the business we've worked for for the last 18 years, and could never afford to start one of our own due to mountains of paperwork, regulations, loan terms and requirements.

A trip to the hospital could take hours, especially when you factor in traffic, and long lines and insurance check in. We could never make it home in time to cook dinner so we whip out a credit card and we stop at one of the 19 fast food restaurants we passed on the way. What used to cost $3 dollars, now cost $8. When you get the statement and add 16% interest and with the charges for your lunch and morning coffee for two days and your gas and dry cleaning. Everything you bought cost you $24 more money than you paid for it.

So who are we working for? The bank that advanced you the money on your credit card, or the $2 fee you paid to get your own money out of the ATM or, the credit card fee charged at the restaurant the gas that cost you $6 bucks to get there and and the drycleaning that was more expensive because of their increase in fees for chemical waste disposal. Cost of insurance before you drive and the cost of the hospital visit. This is all a reality but it sounds impossible. The worst part is that this scenario only applies if you have a job. Imagine if you did'nt, how would you survive?

Our country is soley functioned on a SUPER FRAGILE CAPITALISTIC model. Are we so Atrosious that everything we buy, own, or work for goes to someone else. But this is where it gets interesting. Usually in the United States, that someone else is someone who has everything they could possibly want or need and will never need anything else ever again during their entire life. Now I do not propose they close their businesses or give away their fortune to the poor, but I think feel that if these corporations have a monopoly on our lives our actual existence the power to determine if me and my family will be homeless or not, I think can expect them to give some of it back to the people who has given it to them.

We all can agree that they do pay taxes. I can even agree that is fair that they keep their money, they earned it. The question most want an answer to is, Do the Supercaptialist pay enough taxes? If they have enough money to sustain their entire lives and the lives of their children for generations to come, why keep the rest all to themselves? What happens to majority of the people that are struggling to make ends meet in the United States if nothing is done at all?

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3rdtime

Oh, Taxinum, you are sooo bad!

I used to think I worked for me but I do work to put money in the pockets of big business. I don't believe I will eveer be able to "retire" and do what I would truly love. Perhaps I'll just volunteer to do it on a limited basis. If only I weren' t so tired.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:26 PM EDT
Taxinum2wice

I'd like that. Maybe the rich can just buy us an island to go too and just pay our doctors visits once a week and let us eat fruit and and buy us candles. Like survivor. Wait, no, that wont work, they won't buy us scotch and cigars. Hell, we cant buy that ourselves and we work here everyday. LOL

    #1.1 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
    trm2008

    20 years ago, we were able to start a business with little more than the savings of a years wages.

    You can't do that now because if you lose your health insurance, you stand to lose everything. That is why my husband gave up working for himself and went back to his old job.

    BTW-I love the title.

    • 1 vote
    #1.2 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT
    3rdtime

    Depending on the island, we can make rum instead!

      #1.3 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT
      Taxinum2wice

      Thank you so much.

      Im sorry for your husband to have to delay his dream, only for someone else to realize theirs. That is because all he did it seems like he was working for someone else. We all understand that nothing is free, but does capitalism have to strip us of everything? Must they take all we have in order to have more for themselves.

      • 1 vote
      #1.4 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:30 PM EDT
      trm2008

      Im sorry for your husband to have to delay his dream

      Without real healthcare reform, he will have to give his dream up altogether.

      • 1 vote
      #1.5 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:48 PM EDT
      Taxinum2wice

      Healcare reform may not be perfect, but it will be a darn good start.

        #1.6 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:54 PM EDT
        Wild RabbitDeleted
        Taxinum2wice

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ

        Thay have done this to us more than once. This is what just happend to us. Now you know. This is one of 5.

          #1.8 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:41 PM EDT
          Taxinum2wice

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A

          Here is part 2

            #1.9 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
            Taxinum2wice

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUrib_Gh0Y&feature=related

            Here is part 3

              #1.10 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
              Taxinum2wice

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k&feature=related

              Part 4

                #1.11 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:07 PM EDT
                Reply
                Taxinum2wice

                My Favorite. They would more than likely give us a warm place, that way they can treat us like mushrooms, They would feed us s%# and keep us in the dark. Kinda like now. LOL

                  Reply#2 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:32 PM EDT
                  robertlyn-schultz

                  Hey Taxum,

                  Well my friend you are prolific in you writing, that's for sure!

                  Taxes, specifically Income Taxes are a hot button for me, but taking your article to mind, I can pull back and view our economy as a whole... and that view is still focused on the Federal Reserve. Everyone in this "monetary system", poor and rich, feed that beast with every dollar spent. The only ones that are removed from this paradigm, are the supper-elite that control the Fed.

                  You may enjoy this conversation that I hosted on The Federal Reserve and Chairman Bernanke last week. I think that I've read in some of your comments that you do the Stock Market dealio, so you may be fairly well versed about our central bank. Your input on the thread would be welcome my friend.

                  Have a good'un,

                  Aloha

                  Oh yeah, great title!!!

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#3 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:10 PM EDT
                  Taxinum2wice

                  You are really smart, You may be familiar with this. This is part one of 5. I am an active member also. Let me know what you think if you have not seen this before. It is so. HOT!!

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.1 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
                  Taxinum2wice

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZne09Gf5A

                  Here is part two.

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.2 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
                  Taxinum2wice

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjUrib_Gh0Y&feature=related

                  here is Part 3

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.3 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
                  Taxinum2wice

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k&feature=related

                  This is Part 4

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.4 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT
                  robertlyn-schultz

                  Oh Yeah! You do know this stuff... Zeitgeist is a good'un, I linked to America from Freedom to Fascism in the Fed Article (another very good documentary). Look forward to you take on my view of things.

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.5 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT
                  Taxinum2wice

                  Send me the link to that one as well when you have time.

                  Thanks Bob

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.6 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:24 PM EDT
                  robertlyn-schultz

                  Here you go:

                  America: Freedom to Fascism

                  It is the whole documentary, put online for the citizens of the US by the film-makers. Arron Russo R.I.P. (Hollywood film producer, two of his commercial films were Trading Places and The Rose - died in 2007) put it together for us.

                  Enjoy! X^)

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.7 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  Taxinum2wice

                  Thanks Kiddo, I am going to look it over now.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#4 - Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:34 PM EDT
                  Trying to find Work

                  We all can agree that they do pay taxes.

                  I don't agree that they pay taxes, a lot of the biggest most profitable corporations in America, and some very rich people do NOT pay taxes at all!

                  That is the inequity in the present system, and that is the problem.

                  By greatly reducing or eliminating capital gains and inheritance taxes we are allowing the rich to pay less taxes (proportionately) than the rest of us. The rich can set up trusts and foundations to shelter their money from taxes, the working class doesn't have any extra money to put in a savings account.

                  The problem in your poll is that you are equating taxes with charity, and in our current taxation system, charity is a way to eliminate taxes. I am not saying that it is true for all "super capitalists", but many are charitable because it allows them to keep more of their money, and pay less in taxes.

                    Reply#5 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:17 AM EDT
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